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Postby Kryal on Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:22 pm

95 base Sp. Atk
95 base Atk
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Postby Bandit_De_Wario on Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:29 pm

They are equal as Kryal shows. However, Kingdra's physical attacks are quite limited. So SPAtk>>> ATK
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Postby McGill on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:08 pm

:oops: my mistake but attck gets the benifit from dragon dance
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Postby Bandit_De_Wario on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:14 pm

yes... but his physicals are sadly limited

his sp.atk however, is kind of wide, dragon pulse, surf, ice beam, signal beam, brine.
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Postby McGill on Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:38 am

Crobat @Black Sludge
EVs: 100 HP / 156 SAtk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Cross Poison
-u-Turn
-Hypnosis
-Roost

Snorlax @Leftovers
EVs: 82 HP / 40 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
Ability: Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Curse
-Rest


Kingdra @Scope Lens
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
Ability: Sniper
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Signal Beam
-Draco Meteor

Donphan @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Roar

Marowak @Thick Club
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Rock Head
-Bonemerang
-Stone Edge
-Double-Edge
-Fire Punch

Slaking @Choice Band
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Arial Ace
-Brick Break
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Postby Kryal on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:08 pm

McGill wrote:Crobat @Black Sludge
EVs: 100 HP / 156 SAtk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Cross Poison
-u-Turn
-Hypnosis
-Roost
Everything is good here. Apart from uneeded Sp.Atk EV's

Snorlax @Leftovers
EVs: 82 HP / 40 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
Ability: Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-Crunch
-Curse/Sleep Talk
-Rest
Change the EV's. You want Brave Nature if you want those EV's.
Try: 100 HP/200 Def/152 Atk/58 Special Def with Brave. You can't hit Gengy with your set either.


Kingdra @Scope Lens
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
Ability: Sniper
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Signal Beam
-Draco Meteor

Draco Meteor is a big nono. Use Dragon Pulse

Donphan @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Roar

Everything okay here


Marowak @Thick Club
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Rock Head
-Bonemerang
-Stone Edge
-Double-Edge
-Fire Punch

Jolly not adamant

Slaking @Choice Band
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Arial Ace
-Brick Break


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Postby Bandit_De_Wario on Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:23 pm

McGill wrote:Crobat @Black Sludge
EVs: 252 speed/252/ atk 6 hp
Jolly Nature
-Cross Poison
-u-Turn
-Hypnosis
-Roost

get rid of the special attack ev's

Snorlax @Leftovers
EVs: 252 sp.def 204 hp 48 atk/ 6 def
Careful/sassy Nature
Ability: Thick Fat
-Body Slam
-crunch
-Sleep talk
-Rest

uses these ev's and replace curse with sleep talk
Kingdra @life orb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
timid Nature
Ability: Sniper
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Signal Beam
-Dragon pulse

draco meteor psuedo hazes yourself, we won't want that do we
Donphan @Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Roar

nice one there

Marowak @Thick Club
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
Ability: Rock Head
-Bonemerang
-Stone Edge
-Double-Edge
-Fire Punch

another nice one

Slaking @Choice Band
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Arial Ace
-Brick Break


use Jolly for more speed

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Postby Kryal on Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:09 am

Yes, Jolly and Timid are magic natures.
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Postby Bandit_De_Wario on Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:20 am

magic as a piece of piece

adamant and modest is good for powerful but slow sweepers which need a helpful boost from the rock polish or agility, take metagross for example
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Postby badmanbas on Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:52 pm

What exactly does psuedo haze mean and do? I keep hearing it.
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Postby Bandit_De_Wario on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:45 pm

like hazing, except it uses whirlwing and roar, those are psuedo hazing moves

psuedo psuedo hazing is moves like leech seed, yawn and charm, psuedo psuedo moves do not switch your opponents pokemon out of the ring, but penilaizes them if they do not switch out
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Postby McGill on Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:57 pm

ok way to get technical
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Postby Kryal on Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:46 am

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Postby McGill on Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:31 pm

whats better cloyster or donfan
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Postby Kryal on Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:55 pm

Overall, it's Donphan.


But they are two completely different Pokemon. Donphan is a tank, Cloyster is a wall.

Donphan has better offence and has a priority move. However, Cloyster can SubBreak.
Draw.

Donphan has decent HP. Cloyster dosn't.

Neither can take a Grass Knot.
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